如果无知是福,为何要求知?

Isha 2019-09-18


视频:《如果无知是福,为何要求知?》


Question: Sadhguru, I’m a native of Kerala. So, in Kerala we had floods two to three weeks ago, and I always had my mother calling me up and telling about all her suffrage that she is going through this, she’s going through that. I obviously I’m disturbed because you are safe here and you… see your parents and your loved ones in there, and I had a thought, if had I been ignorant to this fact that my state is entirely drowned in water, I would have been happy, if I have not known that this fact. So, if ignorance is a bliss then why do people seek knowledge?

问:Sadhguru(萨古鲁),我是Kerala当地人。两三星期前,Kerala发生了洪水,我妈妈总是打电话给我,告诉我她的遭遇,她正在经受这个那个。我显然被扰乱了,因为我在这里很安全,但看着父母、自己爱的人在那里,然后我产生了一个想法:如果我对此一无所知,不知道我的家乡完全被水淹了,那我本会开开心心的,假设我不知道这个事实的话。所以,如果无知是福,为何要求知呢?


Sadhguru: Ignorance is bliss like this. You can do one thing…Okay you can come to Velliangiri Malai, go up there and there is a cliff. You jump off, it’s so wonderful – till you hit the ground (Laughter). Ignorance is like that, if you jump off…have you ever… you’ve never done sky diving? Tch! If you jump off an airplane, it’s so fantastic, really. Only thing is, if you look down, the damn planet is coming at you at great speed, that’s the only problem. Otherwise, falling is very nice, till you hit the ground. Ignorance is like that, it’ll catch up with you. It’ll catch up with you. Suppose it happened when you went for a vacation, it would have caught up with you, isn't it (Laughs) ?

Sadhguru(萨古鲁):无知是福,这种说法就好比,你可以做一件事……你可以到Velliangiri(维灵吉瑞)山上去,那里有个悬崖,你跳下来,那感觉是如此美妙——直到你撞到地面。无知就像这样,如果你跳下来……你有没有,你有没有高空跳伞过?Tch!如果你从飞机上跳下来,那感觉棒极了,真的。唯一的问题是,如果你向下看那该死的星球正极速向你靠近,那是唯一的问题。否则,坠落是很好的,直到你撞到地面。无知就像是这样,它会找你麻烦的,它会让你付出代价的。假设那是在你度假时发生的,你会赶上,不是吗?


And what guarantee that it won’t come here? Hmm? There is no guarantee, it can happen anywhere. So, ignorance is not a solution nor is it a bliss. Ignorance protects you from suffering a few things, but suffering will cumulate and come to you in large scale at some point (Laughs). Right now this flood itself is ignorance is bliss only (Laughs). Because people thought,“If you… if you don’t know anything, everything will be okay.” No you will drown! 

谁能保证水灾不会来这儿呢?嗯?没人能保证,它在任何地方都可能发生。所以,无知并不是解决办法,也不是一种福。无知会让你免受些许痛苦,但苦难会渐渐累积,然后在某个时刻大规模地向你袭来。现在,对这场洪灾,人们也想“无知是福”,因为他们想:“如果你什么都不知道,那么一切都会没事。”不,你会被淹死的!


Now the flood is happening for variety of reasons. We have not seen that kind of rains, particularly in this area, in the last eight to nine years. This is the first time I am seeing, after about nine years, full-fledged monsoon. This is how monsoon should be. You understand? There is no such thing as “bad rains”. They are all good rains. Only in England, rain is bad. Only they sang, “Rain, rain, go away,” okay?

那么,洪水的发生有各种原因。在过去的八九年间,我们没见过这样的降雨量,尤其是在这个地区,这是九年以来我第一次见到,真正意义上的雨季。这是雨季该有的样子。你明白吗?并没有“不好的雨”这回事,全都是好雨。只有在英国,雨才是不好的,只有他们会唱:“雨,雨,快走吧”,对吗?


In India, in a tropical country, rain is always good. Are we prepared to handle the rain or not? How can we prepare to handle the rain? Can we catch it in a bucket (Gestures)? No! When we live in a monsoon country, when we live in a tropical country, it is a simple thing that we must have a certain level of vegetation to hold the water. 

在印度,在热带国家,雨总是好的。我们是否准备好了去处理好雨水呢?我们该如何准备,来妥当地处理雨水呢?我们能用篮子装它吗?不能。当我们生活在季风国家,生活在热带国家,很简单的一点就是:我们必须有一定量的植被去吸收水分。


In Tamil, there is some saying, I cannot repeat it verbatim. Something like, “Only if Kaveri comes walking, she is fortune. If she comes running, she is a disaster.” Why will a river run, tell me? How to make a river walk, not run? There must be vegetation. If there is substantial vegetation, the catchment areas, when they get it will hold and slowly it’ll come down to the river. Now there’s no vegetation, it’s coming straight in. 

在Tamil(泰米尔邦),有种说法,我没法一字不差地复述,大概是:“只有 Kaveri河漫步而来时,她才是福。如果她奔跑而来,她就是祸。”为什么一条河会跑?告诉我。如何让河流走着来,而不是跑着来?必须要有植被。如果在集水区有大量的植被,植被会缓住雨水,然后雨水会慢慢地流进河里。现在那儿没有植被,雨水直接进到河里了。


Similar situation happened in Coorg also now. In the last thirty years’ time, they’ve removed sixty-five percent of the vegetation in Coorg which is the catchment area for Kaveri. Now as a part of this, in collaboration with Karnataka government, we are planting twenty-five crore trees in the catchment areas of Kaveri. Now we are fighting for Kaveri between Karnataka and Tamil Nadu but the problem is this - that vegetation in the catchment areas have been removed sixty-five percent in the last thirty years.

现在在库格也发生着类似的事。在过去三十年里,在Coorg,也就是Cauvery流域的集水区,他们砍伐了65%的植被。现在在与Karnataka邦政府的合作中,我们正在Cauvery流域的集水区种植两亿五千万棵树。我们在为Karnataka邦和Tamil邦区间的Cauvery河奋斗着。但问题是,在过去的三十年间,这片集水区65%的植被都被砍伐了。


At one time, I floated down Kaveri hundred-and-sixty-three kilometers over thirteen days, on just about six or seven bamboos and four truck tubes, I just floated down, lived off the river. At that time how I saw Kaveri, today it is only approximately forty percent of it. No wonder you will fight for water. But now when the flood comes, who can hold it? So, ignorance is bliss means, it’ll get you one day. It took some time, it took twenty-four years,but it got you. 

曾经有一次,我从Cauvery漂流下来,一百六十三公里,超过十三天时间,就在六七根竹子和四个轮胎上。我就这么漂流下来了,在河上生存了下来。和那时我看到的Cauvery河流相比,今天大约只有那时的40%,难怪你们需要为水资源而战。但现在洪水来了,谁能缓住它?所以,无知是福,但有一天它会找上你的。它花了一段时间,花了24年,但它还是找上你了。


The same is true with Kerala. In the Ganga banks…In the Ganga Basin – Ganga Basin accounts twenty-five percent of the nation’s geography and thirty-three percent of India’s agriculture. In the last seventy years, we removed ninety-four percent of vegetation in the Ganga basin, What is our plan? Ignorance is bliss is it? Yes it is. Bliss will get us (Laughs). Our ignorance may somehow make us escape, but it will get our children. They will not get away. Next generation will get it.

对Kerala邦来说也是如此。在恒河岸边……在恒河流域——它占全国地理面积的25%,占印度农业的33%,在过去七十年间,我们砍伐了恒河流域94%的植被。我们的计划是什么?无知是福,是吗?是的,它是。但这福会找上我们,我们也许能逃脱,但它会逮住我们的孩子,他们逃不掉的。下一代人会食到苦果!


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